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I'm linking to and reccing this post called Demystifying Paper by sinopiasaur, over at Pillowfort. It's a detailed explanation of the types and specifications of watercolour papers, and I found it interesting and useful.

I don't know much about all this as I've only gotten back into traditional art in the last year or so and never had any training, so I'd be interested to hear what more expert members of the comm think about what sinopiasaur says, or any other information anyone has.

For myself, I need a heavier paper like 300gsm as I do often work pretty wet. But I've realised that other than occasional gift works like Christmas presents or cards, I hardly ever need archival quality as I scan everything and share it on line. I've had problems with Fabriano and Arches hot press papers - I find them very unforgiving and hard to do blending on although I like the smoother surface for detail work, so I'll probably experiment more with other brands. 

During Inktober, one hassle has been getting pens to work over an underlayer of coloured inks. My dip pen gets fibres caught in the nib, my glass pen isn't fine enough for most details, and fineliners get clogged on the underlying ink and I guess also by the paper's fibers once I've started damaging the surface with a layer of wet colour (even once it's thoroughly dry). Also, rougher papers are harder to use pens on and clog the tips/nibs more. Any suggestions about papers that are good for drawing on with pens over a watercolour/ink underlayer? 

Date: 2018-10-21 07:23 pm (UTC)
yhlee: Alto clef and whole note (middle C). (hxx emblem Andan)
From: [personal profile] yhlee
Thank you for the link!

Good luck with your quest for paper--I admit I have no suggestions, as I almost always do the inking first and watercolor over, which is not your technique. I hope someone else has a solution for you.

Date: 2018-10-21 09:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dhampyresa
Thank you for the link.

Date: 2018-10-22 12:58 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] olivermoss
I don't use watercolors much, but in the mediums I do use paper is a big deal. The first marker paper I got was terrible and I eventually started blaming myself for not being able to get markers to work like other people could.

I have strong feelings about Rendr paper because it was the first good paper I used. Suddenly, so many things I'd been trying to do with my markers, pens and pencils just started to work. It's not the best for markers and I think I am going to eventually switch to just using loose cardstock.

There are a lot of ins and outs to using different mediums together and how they work with paper. I used to wind up with a mess every time I tried to ink a sketch.

Date: 2018-10-24 04:25 am (UTC)
mekare: Flower patterned Japanese paper (Default)
From: [personal profile] mekare
Hey thanks for linking, I found it very useful. So far I have been buying by weight, but never considered other factors. My current paper is really not handling a lot of wet in wet painting well and I‘ll definitely need to change it.

Date: 2018-10-24 06:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jainas
Ha, thank you for the link, it's very interesting!
I'm having some trouble with my inktober paper: I chose to use Canson C 224g as my main paper for my inktober because it's not *too* expensive and pretty versatile, (I actually switched from A4 to 24x32 mid-month because there was a sale and I bough 2 packs before realizing that they weren't the same size) but I sometimes realise I sould have upgraded to 370g... always too late alas, because most of the time I don't know I'll be using that much water... until I do. ^^

I'm also having tearing troubles when taking of the masking tape or masking glue, it never happened that much before! It is probably the paper that is too light...(Although sometimes I know it's me: I'm not patien enough andI'm always trying to take of the tale before everything is totally *totally* dry. *sigh*

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